Technosocialist tie-in for economics.

 

Hey guys, I know some of you want technosocialism to be a form of coin anarchism. Sure it is for the initial idea, and its surprise. But actually I would like to build a working system that won’t fail as it comes in.

This requires some thought about what actually will happen, in literal terms to the economy, jobs, and economic output.

 

SO an example. If we make the orange grove utility. It provides free oranges, orange essence, and OJ, at the supermarket.

First thing. Is there only one orange grove local. It may affect another’s livelihood if there is another.

The answer to this may be to help the other to export, or by govt. help for him to.

 

Next thing. OK so now there’s free oranges, OJ and essence at supermarket, now there are 300 workers requiring jobs, due to the fact that we bought up an orange grove and made it a technosocialist utility.

How can these workers find new work?

 

I have a suggestion, which is that the orange grove overproduces, and hence, any oj, or oranges to the community as given free, there are extra grown, and these are useable for business use, for creating products, and the materials are free from this excess (with ID, and numbers accounted).

I haven’t thought of ones for orange groves, but for an apple orchard, maybe apple pies could be a higher business. Then maybe yeh, its saving jobs, and keeping people working for say, mortgage contracts. (contracts are a big issue by the way, as are rates, reg utility fees etc. Eg power, telephony, rent too, let alone the national debts of countries on a larger national scale).

 

 

So then ok, what have we got in terms of freedom. We have free OJ.

But have not lost jobs, after pre orange grove workers moved to new ones making the apple pies say.

 

On a thought track here,

 If we had butter, eggs, apples, and flour, all tsoc at once, businesses could for worker hire. This scenario is interesting. But what if only one was ready. The apples.

 

If just apples utilitised, you still need to buy the flour, eggs, and butter, pre tsoc of those 3 for apple pies made.

 

So, the truth is that business materials purchase free, would be combination product dependant, and dependant on what has been utilitied. Ie. Businesses may still have to pay for the other 3 besides the apples, if we are working to create utility by utility.

 

SO the real truth of technosocialism is that it merely, IF respecting workers regaining jobs, would simply lower business costs, and we could make nothing free but the base product. Ie. Apples.

 

However, that zero base can be rezeroing, as time goes on, when all ingredient bases become tsoc utilitised, so business costs can go down. OR another business making apple flans is started OR more dole money (which sucks) OR hire some workers too on the next utility OR give business grants. But yes technosocialism CAN’T be free all at once, WHILE respecting worker rehire, UNLESS businesses are created or as their costs go down, from free ingredients say, they pay a high fee to government for business startups designed to rehire the exact people that we dumped out of work.

 

What if we then want those apple pies free because everyone loves them? Notably they may still be made in a normal bakery hiring workers instead of making a solar powered apple pie machine.

 

 

 

 

It certainly is true that getting these basic things like an apple pie free, are going to be like in medieval times when these things were that lucky to have, and rare as hens teeth to get an apple pie. The sort of medieval age sort of thing, where an apple pie was a bloody big deal. But with this, it would be free forever pie, instead of medieval hunter gatherer seeker to local pie store, so a step up, a whole chord up really in evolution, but it will be as difficult as the medieval mans travels, to get an apple pie.

 

But believe me, it can build, and not lose jobs.

 

So I am sorry that it may be like a medieval traveller for each utility and each object, and the hard yards involved, but people must be respected for their mortgage contracts etc. And non-redundancy. Some might be very happy to change work type, prob. not location though, if family near, but yeh, low disturbance is key.

 

Otherwise I assume there will be protests. And I wish most were simply minor things. And by the way green wise, I am certainly in favour of the sort of fertiliser free crop rotation systems and green systems, that are environmentally friendly, without runoffs etc. And I can't remember the names of them at the moment, but some work perfectly as a permanent system, and have complete biocycles, which sounds great to me for the utilities.

 

Not as easy a thing to do as you might think. But I hope you enjoy challenge. I do.

 

 

Another idea is a BUSINESS RECURSION TAX, and that would work nationally generically, and buffer many economic issues, but I would like the workers by name to be rehired, or it will feel like a govt. screw.

 

Which I am NOT in favour of.

 

The business recursion tax is basically a tax given by businesses to the government, so as to help new startups occur, even from one single guy on the dole, and his business, as it profits, and builds, must in turn pay his own business recursion tax. Great recession fix too.

 (ps I invented that too)

 

I suppose eventually we will get there, but you can see that there is potential to have no disruption to workers, or the economy itself. But it will take a little thought.

​