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Economics Log

Here is an economics page where we can add finalised economics and economic planning  information after blogging perhaps. Plus somewhere where I can explain a few things myself. But really it can become a detailed log , with proper economics thought on how technosocialism will alter the economy, from intelligent bloggers.

Technosocialist tie-in for economics.

 

Hey guys, I know some of you want technosocialism to be a form of coin anarchism. Sure it is for the initial idea, and its surprise. But actually I would like to build a working system that won’t fail as it comes in.

This requires some thought about what actually will happen, in literal terms to the economy, jobs, and economic output.

 

SO an example. If we make the orange grove utility. It provides free oranges, orange essence, and OJ, at the supermarket.

First thing. Is there only one orange grove local. It may affect another’s livelihood if there is another.

The answer to this may be to help the other to export, or by govt. help for him to.

 

Next thing. OK so now there’s free oranges, OJ and essence at supermarket, now there are 300 workers requiring jobs, due to the fact that we bought up an orange grove and made it a technosocialist utility.

How can these workers find new work?

 

I have a suggestion, which is that the orange grove overproduces, and hence, any oj, or oranges to the community as given free, there are extra grown, and these are useable for business use, for creating products, and the materials are free from this excess (with ID, and numbers accounted).

I haven’t thought of ones for orange groves, but for an apple orchard, maybe apple pies could be a higher business. Then maybe yeh, its saving jobs, and keeping people working for say, mortgage contracts. (contracts are a big issue by the way, as are rates, reg utility fees etc. Eg power, telephony, rent too, let alone the national debts of countries on a larger national scale).

 

 

So then ok, what have we got in terms of freedom. We have free OJ.

But have not lost jobs, after pre orange grove workers moved to new ones making the apple pies say.

 

On a thought track here,

 If we had butter, eggs, apples, and flour, all tsoc at once, businesses could for worker hire. This scenario is interesting. But what if only one was ready. The apples.

 

If just apples utilitised, you still need to buy the flour, eggs, and butter, pre tsoc of those 3 for apple pies made.

 

So, the truth is that business materials purchase free, would be combination product dependant, and dependant on what has been utilitied. Ie. Businesses may still have to pay for the other 3 besides the apples, if we are working to create utility by utility.

 

SO the real truth of technosocialism is that it merely, IF respecting workers regaining jobs, would simply lower business costs, and we could make nothing free but the base product. Ie. Apples.

 

However, that zero base can be rezeroing, as time goes on, when all ingredient bases become tsoc utilitised, so business costs can go down. OR another business making apple flans is started OR more dole money (which sucks) OR hire some workers too on the next utility OR give business grants. But yes technosocialism CAN’T be free all at once, WHILE respecting worker rehire, UNLESS businesses are created or as their costs go down, from free ingredients say, they pay a high fee to government for business startups designed to rehire the exact people that we dumped out of work.

 

What if we then want those apple pies free because everyone loves them? Notably they may still be made in a normal bakery hiring workers instead of making a solar powered apple pie machine.

 

 

 

 

It certainly is true that getting these basic things like an apple pie free, are going to be like in medieval times when these things were that lucky to have, and rare as hens teeth to get an apple pie. The sort of medieval age sort of thing, where an apple pie was a bloody big deal. But with this, it would be free forever pie, instead of medieval hunter gatherer seeker to local pie store, so a step up, a whole chord up really in evolution, but it will be as difficult as the medieval mans travels, to get an apple pie.

 

But believe me, it can build, and not lose jobs.

 

So I am sorry that it may be like a medieval traveller for each utility and each object, and the hard yards involved, but people must be respected for their mortgage contracts etc. And non-redundancy. Some might be very happy to change work type, prob. not location though, if family near, but yeh, low disturbance is key.

 

Otherwise I assume there will be protests. And I wish most were simply minor things. And by the way green wise, I am certainly in favour of the sort of fertiliser free crop rotation systems and green systems, that are environmentally friendly, without runoffs etc. And I can't remember the names of them at the moment, but some work perfectly as a permanent system, and have complete biocycles, which sounds great to me for the utilities.

 

Not as easy a thing to do as you might think. But I hope you enjoy challenge. I do.

 

 

Another idea is a BUSINESS RECURSION TAX, and that would work nationally generically, and buffer many economic issues, but I would like the workers by name to be rehired, or it will feel like a govt. screw.

 

Which I am NOT in favour of.

 

The business recursion tax is basically a tax given by businesses to the government, so as to help new startups occur, even from one single guy on the dole, and his business, as it profits, and builds, must in turn pay his own business recursion tax. Great recession fix too.

 (ps I invented that too)

 

I suppose eventually we will get there, but you can see that there is potential to have no disruption to workers, or the economy itself. But it will take a little thought.

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Your Thoughts

Sorry sites still not ready. I bet you are dying to blog something in regards to the above.

 

Feel free to think up your own economic plan also. I don't know if I will understand all terms as not an economist. But I will post it for you if you want to. You can just ready the ideas now if you like, on paper.

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It would be interesting perhaps a map system as the single materials become utilitised, and how ingredients would fit, and then economic and job wise and social implications made into a sort of fractal diagram from the first utility down.

This method might be simplest,

for understanding by my viewers, however. Text is fine too.

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There also may be many people wanting to do research papers on it, and these will be all over the net too. 

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Feel free to net them as well, (as I may get flooded).

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From front page: 0.1% GST but what happens to the money? Do you think I will be silly with it?

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No.

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First off, it would go into the creation of the database through which to control the CAD programmer members, and file the data, but 90 percent will be in either a bank account earning interest or in shares, at higher interest,so that I can create the public trust for technosocialism.

I will only access funds for things I certainly do need for bread and butter setups. And the fund as a public trust is insurance, in itself. It could be used otherwise and is earning share profit or interest. But technosocialism is the best insurance you will ever get, and should be used the way it is meant to be. Forget the ten bucks, and forget getting paid back after the 10 x 5 = 50 goes to 75 dollars. Who cares about 75 bucks when you can have this kind of investment instead. Why would you want 25 bucks made in tens years instead. And the accounting fees of paying you it back are gonna be plenty, unless I suppose could lower taxes again, to give you it back. But yeh you need this public trust as insurance on the real big problem.

I may also have to double sign with the public trust office to access funds also. And all hours worked are accounted for.

And progress is shown. I may have to do a weekly report on why we did this, what it cost etc. But I will make a fractal of choices. A mind map showing options from working from bottom up, so that it is shown with reasoning what steps can be taken, which need to be, and reasoning for. Some things must happen before other things etc. Remember I am a parametric CAD person. I am pretty good with money and business planning too. But an advisor may help me also.

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you have nothing to worry about. Trust me.

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Am I reliable or a booze head and will spend the money on that and get nothing done?

No. I am am drinking at the moment because am on minimum wage. And I am very reliable, and hard working.

I am willing to drink none if it is a restraint that you want.

but fuck wanting the 50 back at 75 then. all you get is a scabby $12.50 meal for you and partner, and you get a dead earth. 

or hey hey lets buy a box of piss and get pissed up and watch the end of the race,by chemical CO2.

not worth 25 bucks. or 75 at all. you must forget money, and lose it, nationally together, on the street. and think "shit i lost ten bucks, well 50. but over 5 years. but fuck too bad, i'll just work some more, JUST 3-4 HOURS", and its done.

That just gave me an idea.

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It would be cool if there were charity work hours done through employers nationally, and you can do a free hour once a year to go to some charity or split to charities, or you go to the site and choose the charity. But runs through the PAYE system.

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Or it could get something done like this.

or the national charity workhour. It could go to something like those kids that can't afford heart surgery, and what it does is does that single cahrity, but set ups a share invested trust. Then its done for good. would be 45 mill (if everyone was working) per time, but say 30 mill. Surely that could make a public trust.

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I--KNOW--HEART--MEAN

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Listen to this song by the shirelles of "will you stiill love me tomorrow", this is how I feel about the 0.1%.

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But guess what :

it may be that D jones is laments. But def that charactrer is real, like he would be laments one day.

It could be some sort of scam by D jones to get something. dunno what.

The coin addiction: Not good. But theres no house break like on casino movie for the BIG HOUSE. like the planet is the big house too, like everything can be backwards too.

Its total bs the share market is not just flashed up gambling, and from dodgy gamblers. I can offer more than this., with TSOC. ends up killing you too, the supposedly pro but yet just gambling system.You are just gambling divided, goal is none, 10 per win. why is it not just a casino house we  are under really. The govt.s al good but not really. and it prob can't control that addiction, and thats all it does is try never replacement I guess.

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Sometimes it seems liek the govts just another gmabling house based system. Based at least upon it. Tax take and shit, Coin slavers. that sort of shit at least.

It's interesting the science flowering, and theres other stuff of how efficient the coin would be if we passed it more fluid, for coin efficiency, and like the land, an property rights, it used to be more fluid, and also the thing of wars for property is nearly dead, just of land taker, old royalties thing. I reckon theres old runners, from militaries, and they aren't on a real world scheme. shit all that crap, but what do you reckon about the heart flower of science and info carry combination? Theres good shit on these sites, on rest of them too

Get on the Soul Train yo

the science soul train, and come down off your throne, for tsoc you know.

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It's a big fuckup mate.

i--KNOW--MILITARY--TOWER--MEAN--EQUALS--AVERAGE--OF--FIELD--FEEL---ED

I-- LOVE--SUPERFLUID--RANK--MAN--AND--INFO--CARRIER--SYSTEMS--INFO--CARRIER--BECAME--SUPERFLUIDIC--DANIEL--JONES--Latitude: -39° 28' 59.99" SLongitude: 176° 55' 0.01" E

BEST--FIELD--MAN--FOR--HEART--MEAN--AVERAGE--FEEL-ED/EDU

Human coin breed machine with only qualms about kids to eat and live. 

But they won't live long, without TSoc,

Check out TSocPONZ, and heres a roberta flack song for yours and my leading perspective too, of have had a child, or fell in love in the coin age.

Homo economicus overtake by homo designus:(CONSILIO)

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It is interesting going around the supermarket, seeing so many homo economicuses from the perspective given by technosocialism.

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from the movie daybreakers:

"It may be wrong, but these things they have to go". 

"The love drive" as a scientific term, can be dangerous or good, would roll over with TSoc, don't like the non inventive depopulationist essentially. He's a failure in inventive thought. check out my pop machine site for good caring. I don't like scientific depop idiot non inventive liars to the average guy.

Self Questionnaire:

But imagine how I feel too, for TSocPONZ not happenning. and I certainly would like to be in command for it, to save yo' ass.

And I am saying too, there are certainly various forms of selfishness, ane being me having to watch this shit happen with no power to change it, from my personal feelings are not gonna be good. So this is a different type of selfishness than coin greed, for the guy that knows, of the inventive type of genius all encompass ideas fixer, that really tried his hardest to perfect the fix.

The endless skies too, what are we gonna do forwardly. and you of your billions are the captive bird.

Bloody info carrier code clearing of all of society. It's just hardcore or 2-hardcore

for humanities death from the coin matrix slave2kill self, as homo economicus. supervolcano death, whatever. go out on plastic wakas as a social cultural thing to die together, as to a god sacrfice, and a social event organised. A true lements file.

Self questionnaire:

What harm would a little technocapitalism do?

Say for farmers. They have a family farm, they may not wish to sell to the community for tsoc.

Other farmers are worried about profits lost from the competition. They basically won’t want a bottle of free oj if they sell oj.

They may wish to become technocapitalist and have a site for technocapitalism, and have members with other farmers.

They may wish to make their farms techno, but for profits. Or may wish to leave non and hire.

They believe in a good days work and to hire young people for families and young guys and ladies  to have a child and family.

They might sell different oj, and we all like different styles of oj. You have to pay for them.

How can we pay for them? We have to let tsoc allow for business creation from the orange product. So can make orange cake, and etc.

They may make orange cakes at stalls too, or door to door etc. also.

Basically you get raw materials tsoc. People have free needs, but they can also start a business with free materials. These work in competition with the capitalists or poss technocapitalists.

In the future, they may need to be legally more green, at least. Super-green. Electric tractors run by workers etc.

What about the tsoc businesses run off raw materials tsoc. Are they also green?

Yes they might get the super-green stamp if they are using electric cars to go to market etc.

They may need solar panels and wind gens on the roof of their homes to be super-green.

Who makes those? Does tsoc make those? And how can it make those if does not even have iron yet?

We can do iron. We can make an electric generator factory, that makes wind devices, but will possibly be still industry reliant for some time. Or can start doing coated corrugated iron roofing heat panels say. But not for winter.

Tsoc may use old technojunk?

We like recycling. And use of waste materials and objects like old washing machine motors.

We like technojunk that may go to landfill.

Does this mean that you are industry reliant still?

Yes we are, and everyone is, but we can certainly buy things with a profiting utility, used for profit.

What do you think industry will think about you using things that they made, and now you are threatening their viability? And will they sell you anything new.

Hey we use bitcoin, nah just kidding. We hope that industry will support our initiative, in the fact that they are making the problem occur, and their heart should come into the matter to let the system grow.  We were always lock hearted for family development in the p[ast, but we are nearing a dangerous threshold, where the family is in danger again, from climate. How can the technosocialist system be wrong?  We can all have freedom, but freedom does not mean laziness,

And our minds may go to dissolution, if we are not active.  But what work is it that we are doing? Work today is creating self suicide. It is utmostly foolish to continue.

Am I a fool of not adding other economics for TSoc? The long run will see. I would if necessary. for decent flip over potential for world save heart.

farmer or worker too poofters:

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"oh you poofter cunt, get out there and do some hard work ya cunt

i may look like an idiot to some, off vids and even self questionnairing, but I was heavily into other economics pre tsoc too. I have base back ups too.

we gotta stop this world fuck shit. i have hard drives full of crap. I reckon I CAN tie it in.I think on a hell of a lot of things. you might be surprised. having others help is a good thing too. otherwise i look like a wanker.

I need economic analysts, and just dump my hard drives to them. 

we can def make a true long term system that functions, and rolls tsoc in.

Check out quarter communism:

another idea: i come up with heaps:

Quarter Communism:

Tax from all people, fairly, based off profit percent perhaps or ability of earning potential (more potential here!: see below but)

So a savings tax or share taking tax ie. People save auto and buy shares auto too maybe.

But ¼ is communism. So we all get jobs basically. But not all paid the same wage though like communism I guess.

I think your potential. The ability to have potential and to gain more is good.

Potential create tax,

You could study gibbs energy maybe or of the life anti-entropic equations, so that everyone can change their life in their way, to what THEY want. Or what they NEED also for needs.

You can study lock wages and lifestyle, economic energy barriers etc.

Can buffer TSoc too.

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